shoebot: portable windows version

[tristan@hxgraphics]

http://www.hxgraphics.com/downloads/

This is the Shoebot package I have been using for my students. It is a
'portable' (as in no install necessary) Windows version of Shoebot with
Winff(ffmpeg), Geany, and Scite.

There are 4 .bat files in the root:

geany.bat (recommended):
- launches the Geany IDE. It is configured to provide Shoebot functionality
with any files using a .bot or .py extension. It has a custom dark & yellow
GTK theme (looks cool and kind of matches Shoebot colors) as well as
function hints and keyword coloring for Shoebot.

gtk2_prefs.bat:
- a gtk theme selector. I have pre-configured a gtk theme already, so this
is not necessary -- unless of course you cannot stand mine.

scite.bat:
- launches the Scite IDE. It is configured to use Shoebot commands with any
files using a .bot extension. Provides keyword coloring for Shoebot.

shoebot.bat:
- runs "shoebot-ide".

The zip file could definitely be made a lot smaller by removing unnecessary
files (especially in gtk directory). Also, Geany and Scite have simply been
configured to work decently with Shoebot -- ideally I should create proper
plugins. I figured that this download could be handy seeing that there is no
'packaged' Windows version in the "Download and Install" section of the
Shoebot website yet. I know its not the most elegant solution, but I thought
it might be of some use. Excuse my noobish coding skills :)

[Dave Crossland]

I think we should definitely host this on the site, and set up a HG
repo for it so we can continue its development :)

[ricardo lafuente]

it's now on the downloads page.
this was really something on our wishlist for a longtime -- thanks a
ton, Tristan! This is really awesome stuff :)

regarding the repo, maybe we can join everything on the main repository?
say, an addons/ dir could contain the Geany, Scite, Gedit and Inkscape
extensions. Another could contain Tristan's .bat files with instructions
(or better, a script) to create the portable standalone package for
Windows. Does it sound like a proper way to handle this?

(it's just that i don't think it's a good idea to create parallel
repositories :)

Post by Dave Crossland
I think we should definitely host this on the site, and set up a HG
repo for it so we can continue its development :)
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[tristan@hxgraphics]

Hi Ricardo

I happened to make some installation notes while creating the portable
version. Just in case you may need them, the notes and configuration files
(.bat files, geany config files, etc.) have been uploaded to:
http://hxgraphics.com/downloads/. It was great to hear that my version was
of some use! I will need to improve my Mercurial skills ...

My next task is documentation. I know you have written some already and I'd
like to develop it into a comprehensive manual and reference. Everything
from 'getting started', to documenting the libraries, as well as creating a
couple of practical tutorials (by this I mean: how the software can be used
in conjunction with various vector and raster software to produce design
work in response to a creative brief, etc.). However, I'm afraid I will have
to probably use an XML format to write the documentation, but then again --
I figured it should not be too difficult to convert? To cut a long story
short, I have managed to organise a whole lot of time until the end of the
year to do so. The documentation will be compiled into a website format (you
mentioned the love2d documentation, and I'm also pretty keen on something
like that). Of course the documentation will be free to remix, modify, etc.
I will keep you posted.

Post by ricardo lafuente
it's now on the downloads page.
this was really something on our wishlist for a longtime -- thanks a
ton, Tristan! This is really awesome stuff :)
regarding the repo, maybe we can join everything on the main repository?
say, an addons/ dir could contain the Geany, Scite, Gedit and Inkscape
extensions. Another could contain Tristan's .bat files with instructions
(or better, a script) to create the portable standalone package for
Windows. Does it sound like a proper way to handle this?
(it's just that i don't think it's a good idea to create parallel
repositories :)

[Stuart Axon]

Re: documentation - I'm not sure how easy it is, but the gnome
project uses the xml format "docbook" - I'd be suprised if there
weren't editors for it.

I'm pretty sure this can then be processed into various formats,
html and ones that help systems can use (this is all from
memory so a bit vague).

Screencasts on services like showmedo is probably good too
(the showmedo guy is fairly big on python too)



----- Original Message ----
From: "***@hxgraphics" <tristan-pANHbKdXEU/***@public.gmane.org>
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Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:29:57 PM
Subject: Re: [shoebot-devel] shoebot: portable windows version


Hi Ricardo

I happened to make some installation notes while creating the portable
version. Just in case you may need them, the notes and configuration files
(.bat files, geany config files, etc.) have been uploaded to:
http://hxgraphics.com/downloads/. It was great to hear that my version was
of some use! I will need to improve my Mercurial skills ...

My next task is documentation. I know you have written some already and I'd
like to develop it into a comprehensive manual and reference. Everything
from 'getting started', to documenting the libraries, as well as creating a
couple of practical tutorials (by this I mean: how the software can be used
in conjunction with various vector and raster software to produce design
work in response to a creative brief, etc.). However, I'm afraid I will have
to probably use an XML format to write the documentation, but then again --
I figured it should not be too difficult to convert? To cut a long story
short, I have managed to organise a whole lot of time until the end of the
year to do so. The documentation will be compiled into a website format (you
mentioned the love2d documentation, and I'm also pretty keen on something
like that). Of course the documentation will be free to remix, modify, etc.
I will keep you posted.

Post by ricardo lafuente
it's now on the downloads page.
this was really something on our wishlist for a longtime -- thanks a
ton, Tristan! This is really awesome stuff :)
regarding the repo, maybe we can join everything on the main repository?
say, an addons/ dir could contain the Geany, Scite, Gedit and Inkscape
extensions. Another could contain Tristan's .bat files with instructions
(or better, a script) to create the portable standalone package for
Windows. Does it sound like a proper way to handle this?
(it's just that i don't think it's a good idea to create parallel
repositories :)

[Dave Crossland]

Post by Stuart Axon
Re: documentation - I'm not sure how easy it is, but the gnome
project uses the xml format "docbook" - I'd be suprised if there
weren't editors for it.
I'm pretty sure this can then be processed into various formats,
html and ones that help systems can use (this is all from
memory so a bit vague).
Screencasts on services like showmedo is probably good too
(the showmedo guy is fairly big on python too)

http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/ is blatantly the best documentation
system ever :)

[ricardo lafuente]

thanks for reminding me, Tristan: i had a documentation branch lying
around and just merged it into the main tree.

it's based on Sphinx (http://sphinx.pocoo.org/), which is a very awesome
documentation system for Python projects that has a lot of stuff that i dig:
* can build HTML, PDF (via LaTeX) and Json outputs
* source files are written in ReStructuredText (ReST), which is a
somewhat simple (but very very powerful) markup language. If you know
Markdown you won't have trouble at all with it.
* you can set 'directives' with RST, similar to 'blocks'; for instance,
we can include a code snippet, and Sphinx can run Shoebot and place the
image output alongside it.
* it's geared for Python projects, making APIdoc generation from
docstrings really straightforward
* and was adopted as the doc system for Python itself

a couple of links on RST:
Documentation and HOWTOs: http://docutils.sourceforge.net/rst.html
Quick reference: http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docs/user/rst/quickref.html

i'm a Sphinx newbie myself, but you'll find it's very easy to play with.
Installing is easy -- in Debian/*buntu, it's 'aptitude install sphinx'.
For other platforms, you can get it in PyPI
(http://pypi.python.org/pypi/Sphinx)
* the source .rst files are in doc/source
* when you want to see the output, just run 'make html' inside the doc/
dir. The result will be in build/html.
* read the Makefile for extra options.

most of the stuff is just section titles and stubs. Feel free to edit it
mercilessly and commit your changes, as well as notes and ideas.
Ideally, the site's documentation should be ported to this.

and also feel free to propose an alternative if Sphinx doesn't sound
like a good fit for this project. Anyway, i would love to get serious
with Sphinx and its features, maybe we can try getting into it together?

regarding screencasts: that's been on my TODO list for a long while!

Post by Stuart Axon
Re: documentation - I'm not sure how easy it is, but the gnome
project uses the xml format "docbook" - I'd be suprised if there
weren't editors for it.
I'm pretty sure this can then be processed into various formats,
html and ones that help systems can use (this is all from
memory so a bit vague).
Screencasts on services like showmedo is probably good too
(the showmedo guy is fairly big on python too)
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Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:29:57 PM
Subject: Re: [shoebot-devel] shoebot: portable windows version
Hi Ricardo
I happened to make some installation notes while creating the portable
version. Just in case you may need them, the notes and configuration files
http://hxgraphics.com/downloads/. It was great to hear that my version was
of some use! I will need to improve my Mercurial skills ...
My next task is documentation. I know you have written some already and I'd
like to develop it into a comprehensive manual and reference. Everything
from 'getting started', to documenting the libraries, as well as creating a
couple of practical tutorials (by this I mean: how the software can be used
in conjunction with various vector and raster software to produce design
work in response to a creative brief, etc.).
Of course the documentation will be free to remix, modify, etc.
I will keep you posted.

Post by ricardo lafuente
it's now on the downloads page.
this was really something on our wishlist for a longtime -- thanks a
ton, Tristan! This is really awesome stuff :)
regarding the repo, maybe we can join everything on the main repository?
say, an addons/ dir could contain the Geany, Scite, Gedit and Inkscape
extensions. Another could contain Tristan's .bat files with instructions
(or better, a script) to create the portable standalone package for
Windows. Does it sound like a proper way to handle this?
(it's just that i don't think it's a good idea to create parallel
repositories :)

[tristan@hxgraphics]

Initially, I actually had Docbook in mind, but now I will certainly certainly
explore all the other documentation suggestions.

I also uploaded an updated version of the portable Windows Shoebot to:
http://hxgraphics.com/downloads/. I found a couple of nasty bugs in the last
one ...

One other thing, I have a problem using the svg library. For example, the
following Shoebot code returns errors when trying to parse and display an
svg file (happens on both Windows and Linux):

svg = ximport('svg')

smiley = svg.parse(open('smiley.svg').read())

drawpath(smiley)

I just wanted to check if anyone else is having the same problem?

[est]

thanks, AFAIK the graph lib still need few patches,
e.g.

self.font = "/home/francesco/.fonts/calibri.ttf"

will throw an error on Windows

and

min = Point(float("inf"), float("inf"))
max = Point(float("-inf"), float("-inf"))

won't work for py2.5

Post by ***@hxgraphics
http://www.hxgraphics.com/downloads/
This is the Shoebot package I have been using for my students. It is a
'portable' (as in no install necessary) Windows version of Shoebot with
Winff(ffmpeg), Geany, and Scite.
- launches the Geany IDE. It is configured to provide Shoebot functionality
with any files using a .bot or .py extension. It has a custom dark & yellow
GTK theme (looks cool and kind of matches Shoebot colors) as well as
function hints and keyword coloring for Shoebot.
- a gtk theme selector. I have pre-configured a gtk theme already, so this
is not necessary -- unless of course you cannot stand mine.
- launches the Scite IDE. It is configured to use Shoebot commands with any
files using a .bot extension. Provides keyword coloring for Shoebot.
- runs "shoebot-ide".
The zip file could definitely be made a lot smaller by removing unnecessary
files (especially in gtk directory). Also, Geany and Scite have simply been
configured to work decently with Shoebot -- ideally I should create proper
plugins. I figured that this download could be handy seeing that there is no
'packaged' Windows version in the "Download and Install" section of the
Shoebot website yet. I know its not the most elegant solution, but I thought
it might be of some use. Excuse my noobish coding skills :)
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[ricardo lafuente]

Post by est
thanks, AFAIK the graph lib still need few patches,
e.g.
self.font = "/home/francesco/.fonts/calibri.ttf"

this would definitely need some kind of system-wide font search, and
that's no easy task... maybe in the meantime we could bundle DejaVu or
similar? (Dave, what's your thought?)

Post by est
min = Point(float("inf"), float("inf"))
max = Point(float("-inf"), float("-inf"))
won't work for py2.5

hmm, trying to assign float('inf') to a variable works on my Python (2.5
and 2.6). Maybe the problem is in the Point function?

Post by est

Post by ***@hxgraphics
http://www.hxgraphics.com/downloads/
This is the Shoebot package I have been using for my students. It is a
'portable' (as in no install necessary) Windows version of Shoebot with
Winff(ffmpeg), Geany, and Scite.
- launches the Geany IDE. It is configured to provide Shoebot functionality
with any files using a .bot or .py extension. It has a custom dark & yellow
GTK theme (looks cool and kind of matches Shoebot colors) as well as
function hints and keyword coloring for Shoebot.
- a gtk theme selector. I have pre-configured a gtk theme already, so this
is not necessary -- unless of course you cannot stand mine.
- launches the Scite IDE. It is configured to use Shoebot commands with any
files using a .bot extension. Provides keyword coloring for Shoebot.
- runs "shoebot-ide".
The zip file could definitely be made a lot smaller by removing unnecessary
files (especially in gtk directory). Also, Geany and Scite have simply been
configured to work decently with Shoebot -- ideally I should create proper
plugins. I figured that this download could be handy seeing that there is no
'packaged' Windows version in the "Download and Install" section of the
Shoebot website yet. I know its not the most elegant solution, but I thought
it might be of some use. Excuse my noobish coding skills :)
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[Dave Crossland]

this would definitely need some kind of system-wide font search, and that's
no easy task... maybe in the meantime we could bundle DejaVu or similar?
(Dave, what's your thought?)

We could add fontconfig as a dependency, but I'm not too sure about
that - I think it would be best just to put a few libre fonts into the
repository, in a "extras" directory so its easy for distros to keep
them out of their packages, and then have ShoeBot syntax to address
fonts directly by full path.

it's now on the downloads page.

Great!

this was really something on our wishlist for a longtime -- thanks a ton,
Tristan! This is really awesome stuff :)

+1! :-)

regarding the repo, maybe we can join everything on the main repository?
say, an addons/ dir could contain the Geany, Scite, Gedit and Inkscape
extensions.

I think its a great idea - I meant that I would be a little concerned
about having full applications in the tree, since I assume it would
increase the filesize footprint a lot, but I'm not sure that is true
and in any case if we just mean the extensions to the tools then I
think that should definitely go into the main tree :-)

[ricardo lafuente]

Post by Dave Crossland

this would definitely need some kind of system-wide font search, and that's
no easy task... maybe in the meantime we could bundle DejaVu or similar?
(Dave, what's your thought?)

We could add fontconfig as a dependency, but I'm not too sure about
that

i'm not sure at all :)

Post by Dave Crossland
I think it would be best just to put a few libre fonts into the
repository, in a "extras" directory so its easy for distros to keep
them out of their packages, and then have ShoeBot syntax to address
fonts directly by full path.

great. I think we have support for getting fonts from a full path (in
util.py) and using the native font backend (through pango). I'm all for
including fonts with the package, makes stuff a lot easier.

Post by Dave Crossland

regarding the repo, maybe we can join everything on the main repository?
say, an addons/ dir could contain the Geany, Scite, Gedit and Inkscape
extensions.

I think its a great idea - I meant that I would be a little concerned
about having full applications in the tree, since I assume it would
increase the filesize footprint a lot, but I'm not sure that is true
and in any case if we just mean the extensions to the tools then I
think that should definitely go into the main tree :-)

taking care of that already :)

[est]

Hi tristan,

I just found an outstanding gtk app on Windows, and it's GTK lib is
only 472KB minigtk.dll.

http://xchat.org/files/binary/win32/mini-src/

Can you try use minigtk instead of official GTK runtime?

Post by ***@hxgraphics
http://www.hxgraphics.com/downloads/
This is the Shoebot package I have been using for my students. It is a
'portable' (as in no install necessary) Windows version of Shoebot with
Winff(ffmpeg), Geany, and Scite.
- launches the Geany IDE. It is configured to provide Shoebot functionality
with any files using a .bot or .py extension. It has a custom dark & yellow
GTK theme (looks cool and kind of matches Shoebot colors) as well as
function hints and keyword coloring for Shoebot.
- a gtk theme selector. I have pre-configured a gtk theme already, so this
is not necessary -- unless of course you cannot stand mine.
- launches the Scite IDE. It is configured to use Shoebot commands with any
files using a .bot extension. Provides keyword coloring for Shoebot.
- runs "shoebot-ide".
The zip file could definitely be made a lot smaller by removing unnecessary
files (especially in gtk directory). Also, Geany and Scite have simply been
configured to work decently with Shoebot -- ideally I should create proper
plugins. I figured that this download could be handy seeing that there is no
'packaged' Windows version in the "Download and Install" section of the
Shoebot website yet. I know its not the most elegant solution, but I thought
it might be of some use. Excuse my noobish coding skills :)
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Post by est
Hi tristan,
I just found an outstanding gtk app on Windows, and it's GTK lib is
only 472KB minigtk.dll.
http://xchat.org/files/binary/win32/mini-src/
Can you try use minigtk instead of official GTK runtime?

Post by ***@hxgraphics
http://www.hxgraphics.com/downloads/
This is the Shoebot package I have been using for my students. It is a
'portable' (as in no install necessary) Windows version of Shoebot with
Winff(ffmpeg), Geany, and Scite.
- launches the Geany IDE. It is configured to provide Shoebot functionality
with any files using a .bot or .py extension. It has a custom dark & yellow
GTK theme (looks cool and kind of matches Shoebot colors) as well as
function hints and keyword coloring for Shoebot.
- a gtk theme selector. I have pre-configured a gtk theme already, so this
is not necessary -- unless of course you cannot stand mine.
- launches the Scite IDE. It is configured to use Shoebot commands with any
files using a .bot extension. Provides keyword coloring for Shoebot.
- runs "shoebot-ide".
The zip file could definitely be made a lot smaller by removing unnecessary
files (especially in gtk directory). Also, Geany and Scite have simply been
configured to work decently with Shoebot -- ideally I should create proper
plugins. I figured that this download could be handy seeing that there is no
'packaged' Windows version in the "Download and Install" section of the
Shoebot website yet. I know its not the most elegant solution, but I thought
it might be of some use. Excuse my noobish coding skills :)
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Hello, don't know if it's me or the site is dead, does anyone knows If
there's a windows version?

[tristan@hxgraphics]

Hi Sebastian,
sorry about the delayed response.

I have been rather side-tracked this year, and have not been able to put
much time into this.
I have a windows version here:
http://spryte.hxgraphics.com/media/spryte/downloads/spryte_v0.2.zip

Minigtk sounds like a great option. I really need to look at repackaging the
whole lot (with updated shoebot, etc.) ...

[Stuart Axon]

You can install it from all the pieces on the shoebot.net site. I collected all
the links a while ago to get it working on 2.6, and should have got that put on
the site (but didn't, I can probably dig those out from somewhere though).

I've been a bit sidetracked in my own participation with work stuff, I'm hoping
that when I come back the next version of cairo and gtk will be out.

(Next version of gtk has much more integration with cairo, while the next
version of cairo has the start of graphics acceleration).

S++



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Post by est
Hi tristan,
I just found an outstanding gtk app on Windows, and it's GTK lib is
only 472KB minigtk.dll.
http://xchat.org/files/binary/win32/mini-src/
Can you try use minigtk instead of official GTK runtime?

Post by ***@hxgraphics
http://www.hxgraphics.com/downloads/
This is the Shoebot package I have been using for my students. It is a
'portable' (as in no install necessary) Windows version of Shoebot with
Winff(ffmpeg), Geany, and Scite.
- launches the Geany IDE. It is configured to provide Shoebot

functionality

Post by est

Post by ***@hxgraphics
with any files using a .bot or .py extension. It has a custom dark &

yellow

Post by est

Post by ***@hxgraphics
GTK theme (looks cool and kind of matches Shoebot colors) as well as
function hints and keyword coloring for Shoebot.
- a gtk theme selector. I have pre-configured a gtk theme already, so this
is not necessary -- unless of course you cannot stand mine.
- launches the Scite IDE. It is configured to use Shoebot commands with

any

Post by est

Post by ***@hxgraphics
files using a .bot extension. Provides keyword coloring for Shoebot.
- runs "shoebot-ide".
The zip file could definitely be made a lot smaller by removing

unnecessary

Post by est

Post by ***@hxgraphics
files (especially in gtk directory). Also, Geany and Scite have simply

been

Post by est

Post by ***@hxgraphics
configured to work decently with Shoebot -- ideally I should create proper
plugins. I figured that this download could be handy seeing that there is

no

Post by est

Post by ***@hxgraphics
'packaged' Windows version in the "Download and Install" section of the
Shoebot website yet. I know its not the most elegant solution, but I

thought

Post by est

Post by ***@hxgraphics
it might be of some use. Excuse my noobish coding skills :)
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Post by est

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Hello, don't know if it's me or the site is dead, does anyone knows If
there's a windows version?
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