Discussion:
On shoebot-dq
Sebastian Oliva
2011-03-03 19:58:47 UTC
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I saw the new changes on shoebot-dq branch, and then seem to work as a
charm. I think most of the major issues are fixed, and we could start
using shoebot-dq as the default shoebot; or am I missing something?
ricardo lafuente
2011-03-03 20:27:26 UTC
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If there's no apparent blocker, let's do it. I keep falling short of
finishing the .3 release, and I suppose the wait hasn't made things any
better.

If funny stuff pops up with the new version, we can just fix things
there. So let's bring out 0.4!
Post by Sebastian Oliva
I saw the new changes on shoebot-dq branch, and then seem to work as a
charm. I think most of the major issues are fixed, and we could start
using shoebot-dq as the default shoebot; or am I missing something?
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architetto francesco fantoni <hva - hermanitos verdes architetti>
2011-03-03 20:54:10 UTC
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It's working great, though I still have some problems in running some
examples.
for example the Image object has no more a draw attribute, and last time
I checked I had some issue with clipping, but I will test more
carefully.
a very good job indeed anyway!
francesco
Post by ricardo lafuente
If there's no apparent blocker, let's do it. I keep falling short of
finishing the .3 release, and I suppose the wait hasn't made things any
better.
If funny stuff pops up with the new version, we can just fix things
there. So let's bring out 0.4!
Post by Sebastian Oliva
I saw the new changes on shoebot-dq branch, and then seem to work as a
charm. I think most of the major issues are fixed, and we could start
using shoebot-dq as the default shoebot; or am I missing something?
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Stuart Axon
2011-03-07 09:30:48 UTC
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S++



----- Original Message ----
From: "architetto francesco fantoni <hva - hermanitos verdes architetti>"
Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 8:54:10 PM
Subject: Re: [shoebot-devel] On shoebot-dq
It's working great, though I still have some problems in running some
examples.
for example the Image object has no more a draw attribute, and last time
I checked I had some issue with clipping, but I will test more
carefully.
a very good job indeed anyway!
francesco
If there's no apparent blocker, let's do it. I keep falling short of
finishing the .3 release, and I suppose the wait hasn't made things any
better.
If funny stuff pops up with the new version, we can just fix things
there. So let's bring out 0.4!
I saw the new changes on shoebot-dq branch, and then seem to work as a
charm. I think most of the major issues are fixed, and we could start
using shoebot-dq as the default shoebot; or am I missing something?
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Stuart Axon
2011-03-07 11:49:37 UTC
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Oops - didn't mean to send a blank email
Post by Sebastian Oliva
From: "architetto francesco fantoni <hva - hermanitos verdes architetti>"
Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 8:54:10 PM
Subject: Re: [shoebot-devel] On shoebot-dq
It's working great, though I still have some problems in running some
examples.
for example the Image object has no more a draw attribute, and last time
This shouldn't be too much hassle to add back. there are some other things not
working in images, as I was experimenting with a gdk based image as opposed to
PIL (to see if it would be faster, to avoid pixel format conversions between
cairo and PIL). I should probably either add the missing features (it doesn't
support passing the raw image data in currently) or revert it to PIL.
Post by Sebastian Oliva
I checked I had some issue with clipping, but I will test more
carefully.
Clipping is the main thing that is missing from -dq ... I don't *think* it
should be hard to implement, have to have a go I guess.
Post by Sebastian Oliva
a very good job indeed anyway!
francesco
If there's no apparent blocker, let's do it. I keep falling short of
finishing the .3 release, and I suppose the wait hasn't made things any
better.
If funny stuff pops up with the new version, we can just fix things
there. So let's bring out 0.4!
Cool .. should we try and fix the two issues I mentioned (clipping and missing
image support first) ?
Or just get this one out and do those in 0.5 ?
Post by Sebastian Oliva
I saw the new changes on shoebot-dq branch, and then seem to work as a
charm. I think most of the major issues are fixed, and we could start
using shoebot-dq as the default shoebot; or am I missing something?
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ricardo lafuente
2011-03-14 23:40:20 UTC
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Post by Stuart Axon
Cool .. should we try and fix the two issues I mentioned (clipping and missing
image support first) ?
Or just get this one out and do those in 0.5 ?
Image support is pretty important to have, but I'd rather push this in
and then fix it for a 0.4.1. How does that sound?

Sebastian also managed to convert the repository to Git --
http://gitorious.org/shoebot/shoebot-dq -- thus providing a good
solution to our previous discussion about moving our repository and
opting for a VCS. I've been working with Git lately and it's a pretty
easy transition from Mercurial -- I could write a quick HOWTO if needed.

Also -- I've been noticing that the colors library is spectacularly huge
(tons of XML files), causing installation slowness and some other
nasties. What do you think of taking it out and providing it separately?
(it would also make the repo a lot lighter, space-wise)

Cheers and thanks everyone for the awesome work!
Post by Stuart Axon
Post by Sebastian Oliva
Post by Sebastian Oliva
Post by Sebastian Oliva
I saw the new changes on shoebot-dq branch, and then seem to work as a
charm. I think most of the major issues are fixed, and we could start
using shoebot-dq as the default shoebot; or am I missing something?
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Stuart Axon
2011-03-15 14:33:57 UTC
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Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 11:40:20 PM
Subject: Re: [shoebot-devel] On shoebot-dq
Post by Stuart Axon
Cool .. should we try and fix the two issues I mentioned (clipping and
missing
Post by Stuart Axon
image support first) ?
Or just get this one out and do those in 0.5 ?
Image support is pretty important to have, but I'd rather push this in
and then fix it for a 0.4.1. How does that sound?
Sebastian also managed to convert the repository to Git --
http://gitorious.org/shoebot/shoebot-dq -- thus providing a good
solution to our previous discussion about moving our repository and
opting for a VCS. I've been working with Git lately and it's a pretty
easy transition from Mercurial -- I could write a quick HOWTO if needed.
Also -- I've been noticing that the colors library is spectacularly huge
(tons of XML files), causing installation slowness and some other
nasties. What do you think of taking it out and providing it separately?
(it would also make the repo a lot lighter, space-wise)
Cheers and thanks everyone for the awesome work!
I'm happy if everybody else is happy (as long as we know whats missing).

A quick howto would be nice, Git seems to make sense, it's what everything else
is using these days.

As had been mentioned, we should probably remove the IDE before releasing 0.4,
as it doesn't work in -dq branch, while the gedit integration does.

I don't have access to my computer right now, but I wonder if it would be
feasible to provide the XML files in a zip file and change the library to use
that (we could do this in 0.4.x so as not to block the release) ?
Sebastian Oliva
2011-03-15 22:33:19 UTC
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Post by Stuart Axon
Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 11:40:20 PM
Subject: Re: [shoebot-devel] On shoebot-dq
Post by Stuart Axon
Cool .. should we try and fix the two issues I mentioned (clipping and
missing
Post by Stuart Axon
image support first) ?
Or just get this one out and do  those in 0.5 ?
Image support is pretty important to have, but I'd rather  push this in
and then fix it for a 0.4.1. How does that  sound?
Sebastian also managed to convert the repository to Git --
http://gitorious.org/shoebot/shoebot-dq -- thus providing a good
solution to our previous discussion about moving our repository and
opting for a VCS. I've been working with Git lately and it's a pretty
easy transition from Mercurial -- I could write a quick HOWTO if  needed.
Also -- I've been noticing that the colors library is  spectacularly huge
(tons of XML files), causing installation slowness and  some other
nasties. What do you think of taking it out and providing it  separately?
(it would also make the repo a lot lighter,  space-wise)
Cheers and thanks everyone for the awesome  work!
I'm happy if everybody else is happy (as long as we know whats missing).
A quick howto would be nice, Git seems to make sense, it's what everything else
is using these days.
As had been mentioned, we should probably remove the IDE before releasing 0.4,
as it doesn't work in -dq branch, while the gedit integration does.
I don't have access to my computer right now, but I wonder if it would be
feasible to provide the XML files in a zip file and change the library to use
that (we could do this in 0.4.x so as not to block the release) ?
Git to Mercurial is an easy transition, you can even keep using the HG
tools thanks to hg-git (which I used to port the repo), still a HOWTO
would not hurt at all.

I agree on removing the IDE, I'll look into auto competition and if
it's possible to create a client window, to use to try the
parametrization.

I think it would be easier to just zip the XMLs, just changing the
install script to unzip 'em at the install time. I remember we also
discussed separating the plugins and extras from the main code, now
would be a great time to do so.

I am currently the admin at the gitorious repo, if anyone wants/needs
access, create an account and let me know and I'll add you to
commiters.
Stuart Axon
2011-03-17 17:15:05 UTC
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Hi,
Life is getting in the way of me helping much with the release at the mo, so I
can't make changes myself (this might change soon).
I agree on removing the IDE,
Yup .. please do this, as I can't right now.

Also - a small bugbear - the sbot.cmd I added has the executable bit set, so it
shows up in the path on unix, if you could unset this too it would be awesome.
I'll look into auto competition and if
it's possible to create a client window, to use to try the
parametrization.
In gEdit ? - Sounds pretty good.
I think it would be easier to just zip the XMLs, just changing the
install script to unzip 'em at the install time. I remember we also
discussed separating the plugins and extras from the main code, now
would be a great time to do so.
I am currently the admin at the gitorious repo, if anyone wants/needs
access, create an account and let me know and I'll add you to
commiters.
Maybe once these small changes are in it might be worth making this the official
repository (although getting rid of the -dq suffix might be nice).

My thoughts: go for it .. I'll be back participating more once I get access to
my computer :)

S++
Sebastian Oliva
2011-03-17 19:18:22 UTC
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Hi,
 Life is getting in the way of me helping much with the release at the mo, so I
can't make changes myself (this might change soon).
I agree on removing  the IDE,
Yup .. please do this, as I can't right now.
Also - a small bugbear - the sbot.cmd I added has the executable bit set, so it
shows up in the path on unix, if you could unset this too it would be awesome.
I'll look into auto competition and if
it's possible to create a  client window, to use to try the
parametrization.
In gEdit ?  - Sounds pretty good.
I think it would be  easier to just zip the XMLs, just changing the
install script to unzip 'em at  the install time. I remember we also
discussed separating the plugins and  extras from the main code, now
would be a great time to do so.
I am  currently the admin at the gitorious repo, if anyone wants/needs
access,  create an account and let me know and I'll add you  to
commiters.
Maybe once these small changes are in it might be worth making this the official
repository (although getting rid of the -dq suffix might be nice).
My thoughts:  go for it .. I'll be back participating more once I get access to
my computer :)
S++
Ok, we are now on http://gitorious.org/shoebot/shoebot ;
I added stuaxo, and if anyone else needs, I'll probably change it to
Group, and add you ASAP.

I removed the IDE now, and I think the sbot.cmd has been corrected,
let me know if it's not.

The git version is quite compact, so the XMLs are not so much of an
issue, though it would still be good to fix'em.
Stuart Axon
2011-03-23 19:52:27 UTC
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I removed the IDE now, and I think the sbot.cmd has been corrected,
let me know if it's not.
I did my first git push, changing this to only be copied if on windows (I didn't
really understand setup.py enough before to realise that just setting it not
executable was not enough - distutils automatically does that)

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