couple questions

[Kursad Karatas]

Hi

Thank you for developing this simplified app. I have just started
messing around with it, so far I am enjoying it.

I have couple questions

-How can I plot a single pixel? I can use the line I guess but I was
wondering if there is a single pixel plot.

-Is it possible to use mouse to plot shapes or pixels?

-I am trying to set up it with Vim, so I need to know the windowed mode
parameters. The page about windowed mode is empty on the web site

-Are there plans to support 3d environment at some point?

-The reference page links to nodebox site which is fine. I am wondering
if Shoebot offers more or less commands than Nodebox? It would be great
to get little extra documentation. I will also try checking out the
sources.
I am not a programmer so personally as a user I prefer more streamlined
documentation :)

thanks

[Stuart Axon]

Sent: Sun, June 13, 2010 4:38:11 AM
Subject: [shoebot-devel] couple questions
Hi

Thank you for developing this simplified app. I have just

started

messing around with it, so far I am enjoying it.

I have couple

questions

-How can I plot a single pixel? I can use the line I guess but

I was

wondering if there is a single pixel plot.


Like nodebox, everything is based around the idea of paths.

One thing you can try is using snapshot() to a cairo ImageSurface
at the end of a frame.

At the beginning of the next frame, pass the ImageSurface to
an Image as it's data parameter (I'm not 100% sure if this'll
work though).
- Doing it this way you have another advantage in that you can
draw whatever you like.

At the moment, plotting individual pixels with anything python
based can be pretty slow though - hopefully when the next
version of PyPy comes out shoebot will work in it; this would
give us a fast python.


-Is it possible to

use mouse to plot shapes or pixels?

-I am trying to set up it with Vim,

so I need to know the windowed mode

parameters. The page about windowed mode

is empty on the web site

I think the only parameters needed are -w
to run it in the window.


-Are there plans to support 3d environment at

some point?

Definitely... possibly :) It's something we've talked about on
the mailing list about a little. Not quite sure how it's going
to fit into the grammar overall.

Myself, I'm keen to try out the combination of shoebot and
blender, after blender 2.6 comes out.


-The reference page links to nodebox site which is fine. I am

wondering

if Shoebot offers more or less commands than Nodebox? It would be

great

to get little extra documentation. I will also try checking out

the

sources.
I am not a programmer so personally as a user I prefer more

streamlined

documentation

:)

At the moment, some key things don't work, Ricardo is looking
at releasing 0.3 soon which some more of these.

Going forward, I'd like to fix as many of the missing bits as
possible in the version afterwards.





thanks

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[Kursad Karatas]

Sent: Sun, June 13, 2010 4:38:11 AM
Subject: [shoebot-devel] couple questions

Hi thanks for the reply.

I really think that it would make sense to have single pixel plotting
function, even a slow one. What is interesting is that, I tried looking
at various graphics libraries before Shoebot, and I could not locate a
single pixel plotter.

The windowed mode works well with the Gedit plugin but I am a Vim user
and when I use the windowed mode, the window does not stay open at all.
Is there a native method to keep it open? I can use keyboard input etc
solutions but I am looking for built in method for streamlining it.

As far as Blender goes, Shoebot would be a great addition to existing
Blender tool arsenal. I think that Shoebot would make a perfect
texture-brush engine. Even inside the Blender compositor we could have a
use for it, like using it to write some pattern generators, simple
filters etc.

[Stuart Axon]

I don't use vim, what sort of things would it need to make windowed mode useful?
It might be worth opening a bug on trac.

[Kursad Karatas]

Post by Stuart Axon
I don't use vim, what sort of things would it need to make windowed mode useful?
It might be worth opening a bug on trac.

not sure, is not windowed mode the one with a window ?:) I need a window
to see the result, I am not rendering to image file. Maybe it is called
something else. I am trying to get a similar usability to what Gedit
plugin has at the moment.

[Stuart Axon]

Then it should be as simple as

$ sbot -w mybot.bot

If you type
$ sbot --help

There is help for every parameter

S++



----- Original Message ----

Sent: Wed, June 16, 2010 12:39:07 AM
Subject: Re: [shoebot-devel] couple questions
I don't use vim, what sort of
things would it need to make windowed mode useful?
It might be worth
opening a bug on trac.

not sure, is not windowed mode the one with a window

?:) I need a window

to see the result, I am not rendering to image file.

Maybe it is called

something else. I am trying to get a similar usability to

what Gedit

plugin has at the moment.
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Kursad

Karatas

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[Kursad Karatas]

Post by Stuart Axon
Then it should be as simple as
$ sbot -w mybot.bot
If you type
$ sbot --help
There is help for every parameter
S++

Yeah that is what I have been trying. But the windows does not stay
open. As soon as it finishes running the code it closes itself.

[Stuart Axon]

Hi,
Sorry for the delay - but I've pushed a fix for this to the main branch now

https://code.goto10.org/hg/shoebot

S++



----- Original Message ----

Sent: Wed, June 16, 2010 1:20:40 AM
Subject: Re: [shoebot-devel] couple questions
Then it should be as simple
as
$ sbot -w mybot.bot
If you type
$
sbot --help
There is help for every
parameter
S++

Yeah that is what I have

been trying. But the windows does not stay

open. As soon as it finishes

running the code it closes
itself.

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[Kursad Karatas]

Post by Stuart Axon
Hi,
Sorry for the delay - but I've pushed a fix for this to the main branch now
https://code.goto10.org/hg/shoebot
S++

Thanks for the fix

[Stuart Axon]

Ah, ok thts a bug then.
I've fixed this in my branch..
http://bitbucket.org/stuaxo/shoebot-dq/

however other things (for instance clip paths) are broken.


You might also try making your bot an animation, try having
setup() And
draw()

should be enough (I'm not in front of a computer now so can't check)

Post by Kursad Karatas

Post by Stuart Axon
Then it should be as simple as
$ sbot -w mybot.bot
If you type
$ sbot --help
There is help for every parameter
S++

Yeah that is what I have been trying. But the windows does not stay
open. As soon as it finishes running the code it closes itself.
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[Stuart Axon]

Btw if I get time I'll see if I can fix this in the main branch

Post by Stuart Axon
Ah, ok thts a bug then.
I've fixed this in my branch..
http://bitbucket.org/stuaxo/shoebot-dq/
however other things (for instance clip paths) are broken.
You might also try making your bot an animation, try having
setup() And
draw()
should be enough (I'm not in front of a computer now so can't check)

Post by Kursad Karatas

Post by Stuart Axon
Then it should be as simple as
$ sbot -w mybot.bot
If you type
$ sbot --help
There is help for every parameter
S++

Yeah that is what I have been trying. But the windows does not stay
open. As soon as it finishes running the code it closes itself.
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